Air Venturi Avenge-X classic wood.
This report covers:
- Pondered
- The test
- Seneca Hunting pellet
- Discharge sound
- H&N Baracuda Match with 4.50mm heads
- H&N Sniper Magnum
- Shot count
- Discussion
- RovAir
- Summary
Wives — unplug the computer and hide your husband’s smart phone. Today is gonna hurt!
(song parody, sung to the tune of The Great Pretender)
Oh,oh-oh-oh-yohhhh — yes, I’m the Great Enabler.
I make you buy stuff you don’t need.
Your wife is right, I’m her greatest plight,
I’m really a very bad seed.
I make you buy stuff you don’t need.
Today we look at the velocity of the Air Venturi Avenge-X precharged pneumatic air rifle. And I did it all wrong. I did so because this rifle is so adaptable and tunable that no matter what I do, it won’t be what you want to see.
I’m not telling you to withhold your comments. I often get my best ideas from things you guys say. But there are also the guys who ask, “BB, could you shoot that test again while wearing Crocs and wearing your belt backwards?”
At the SHOT Show last January Tyler Patner told me this rifle gets an incredible number of shots on a fill. He said I could see 70 high-power shots on a single fill. If Tyler was just a salesman I would take that with a grain of salt. But he’s an airgunner. He knows what he’s talking about and he also knows I’m going to test it and tell you the truth. That makes him a dangerous man. You better listen when he speaks!
Pondered
It took me a month to get to this point because I pondered what I should do. Should I shoot the rifle for accuracy first and then test velocity? Should I test just one pellet and adjust the hammer spring and the reg pressure?
The test
What I decided to do was test three pellets — each at high and low power settings, and count the shots as I went. After every 20 shots (10 on high power and 10 on low) I would shoot the first pellet on high power again to see if the rifle was still on the power curve. It should become clear when you see the test results.
I tested three heavy pellets because, let’s face it — the Avenge-X is powerful! Lighweight pellets have no business here and need not apply. Let’s begin.
The rifle had been sitting for one month on a fill and was completely full at the start. And I must confess to a mistake I made. My rifle is configured as a .177. I have a .22 barrel to swap in, but today I’m testing a .177. I was confused about that in Parts 1 and 2, but when I went to load a pellet it became crystal clear.
Seneca Hunting pellet
The .177-caliber Seneca Hunting pellet is a 16.1-grain dome. The first ten on high power averaged 845 f.p.s. At that velocity the muzzle energy is 25.53 foot pounds. The low was 831 and the high was 853 — a difference of 22 f.p.s.
On low power 10 averaged a velocity of 764 f.p.s., for a muzzle energy of 20.87 foot-pounds. The low was 759 and the high was 771 — a difference of 12 f.p.s.
After the 20th shot, I turned the power back to high and shot a single Seneca Hunting pellet at 853 f.p.s.
Discharge sound
I recorded the sound level of the second shot in the first string on high power. It was 98.2 decibels. It was quieter than I thought it would be at the rifle’s power level.
H&N Baracuda Match with 4.50mm heads
Next up were ten H&N Baracuda Match pellets. On high power they averaged 980 f.p.s., for a muzzle energy of 22.72 foot pounds. The low was 973 and the high was 1,000 f.p.s. for a spread of 27 f.p.s.
On low power the average velocity was 885 f.p.s., which is an energy of 18.53 foot pounds. The low was 883 and the high was 891 f.p.s. — a difference of 8 f.p.s.
After the 41st shot I turned the power up to high and shot a single Seneca Hunting pellet at 853 f.p.s.
H&N Sniper Magnum
The last pellet I tested was the obsolete 15-grain H&N Sniper Magnum. On high power ten averaged 870 f.p.s. which is good for a muzzle energy of 25.22 foot-pounds. The low was 864 and the high was 882 — a difference of 18 f.p.s.
On low power ten averaged 786 f.p.s. which produced 20.58 foot pounds. The low was 783 and the high was 793 f.p.s. a difference of 10 f.p.s.
After the 62nd shot I turned the power up to high and shot a single Seneca Hunting pellet at 833 f.p.s. This was a decrease in velocity from the average of the first string (846 f.p.s.) but it was still faster than the slowest shot in that string (831 f.p.s.) So we are still on the power curve.
Shot count
I now switched back to the Seneca Hunting pellet for the final shots. Let’s look at the next couple strings with this pellet.
Shot……Vel.
64……….842
65……….842
66……….829
67……….826
68……….839
69……….842
70……….838
71……….827
72……….828
73……….840
74……….832
75……….831
76……….830
77……….829
78……….832
79……….830
80……….827
81……….828
82……….828
83……….830
84……….825
And so on. I kept shooting until the velocity of this pellet fell below 800 f.p.s. which it did on shot 93 (799).
The Air Venturi Avenge-X gets a LOT of shots! Now, I admit that I shot on both high and low power, so there will be fewer shots on high power alone, but how many shots do you need?
Discussion
What I see in today’s test results is a possible sweet spot for the Seneca Hunting pellet at somewhere between 820 and 830 f.p.s. BUT — and this is an all-important but — is that the .177-caliber pellet I want to shoot in this rifle? I’m an old man and probably won’t live long enough to test all the possibilities this Avenge-X offers, so I’m not going to try. Instead I’m going to try to find an accurate pellet and see what sort of tune it likes — in .177. Remember, I’m still going to test this same rifle for you in .22-caliber.
Also I want to note that the power adjuster changed the power of the airgun RIGHT NOW. On many guns with power adjusters it takes several shots for the velocity to settle back down, but the Avenge-X I am testing changes immediately.
RovAir
After the test I filled the Avenge-X, using the RovAir compressor. Like before I blew a burst disk at the end of the fill. But unlike before this time I read the pressure gauge on the rifle immediately after the fill. It read 4,750 psi! I think in the higher range the auto shutoff on the RovAir isn’t reading as high as it is filling. I know the small gauge on the Avenge-X is not that precise, but it could also be reading low as well as high. The next time I fill to 4,350 psi I’ll set the shutoff on the RovAir to 4,100 psi and see what happens.
Summary
I’m sorry, wives, for today’s report. But at least I did warn you up front.
Everyone,
I’m sorry. I scheduled this post for Monday. It wasn’t WordPress, it was me this time. Have a happy weekend.
BB
B.B.
Bad seeds do not sprout.
-Y
You could have still blamed it on Weird Press, we would not have known.
RR,
I know I could have blamed them. But this time I was deliberately stupid. 😉
BB
OK, B.B. Let’s see. How about a conversation starter?
Anyone have any airgun-related items on their Christmas (or substitute your year-end gift giving holiday) wish list? Personally, I had missed P.A.’s last 20% sale on the Crosman 362 anniversary addition, and while it came around again for “Black Friday,” TCFKAC also had a 25% sale with free shipping. From P.A., I bought the pellet tin set, the Benjamin match pellets, and the plastic peep sight for a used Daisy 852C I picked up recently. I will try to do Shootski’s nitrogen purge for long term storage. I WILL have to shoot the gun however from time to time to compare it to the synthetic stocked 362 I already have.
Oh well, maybe later.
Might ask Pyramyd Santa for some scope rings, RG – we’ll see.
FM,
I found one set of one inch rings today. I thought I had a bunch more. I will have to dig deep in my closet this weekend and see what tumbles out.
Again, that’s kind of you but FM expects no freebies! No rush, you better tend to them hoodoos, oops, honeydoos first…
Roamin,
My wife is getting me a .22 Avenge-X for Christmas… it’s supposed to be a surprise but she has been asking what stock option I liked best 😉
Cheers!
Oh Yeah!
And I sense a guest blog in the future.
Maybe,
BB and Ian have the Avenge-X blogs well covered.
I might be able to add 2-cents (I’m working on something related at the moment).
That and I have a specific interest in .177 slugs that I want to test out.
Hank
Roamin’,
I would very much like an Umarex Beretta M9A3 FM (Full Metal), but no one in the U.S. seems to have them. They were introduced a couple years ago, but they seem to be made of unobtainium instead of pot metal. I’d prefer black, but I’d even accept Full Diaper Eeew (FDE).
Anyone here know how to get one?
Michael
Michael,
The answer is obvious … Don’t wait a couple of years to get one ! 😉
Airguns seem to come and go faster these days. I chalk it up to bean counters but who knows. Covid may have messed up everything for some time to come?
I can almost pick out airgun oddities now that will not last long for one reason or another, like the Evanix Speed for example and order them ASAP if they interest me.
Supply and demand looks like the situation here. Catching or waiting for it on sale is a gamble and Lord knows how many regrets I have for not waiting for a 20% discount and free shipping on an expensive airgun. But you know the saying, “A bird in hand …”
I have many discontinued airguns and they very rarely come back like the Webley Alecto Ultra.
Good Luck in getting one !
Michael,
eBay … “More than 10 available”?
Hi guys,
there also seem to be plenty available here in Germany in both 6mm and 4.5mm.
Maybe just a matter of time until the US dealers get new stock.
Stephan
Stephan,
The Umarex MPA3 FM — the full metal version? In steel BB? This is not the plastic framed one sold everywhere in the U.S. They are also not the M9A1 sold everywhere.
I think they have never been available in the U.S. About how much are they? If you bought one (steel BB) and sent it to me, I’d pay a pretty penny, especially if it were in black.
Michael
Here: https://www.umarex.com/products/airguns/co2/5.8393.html
Bob,
Nope. There are none available on ebay. There are plenty of the plastic frame ones. I have one of those. Pyramyd sells them, too.
I would like an Umarex M9A3 FM (Full Metal).
Michael
Romin,
One of the great things about PyramydAir is that they will work with you. I have on more than one occasion missed an outstanding sale because I was in some off the grid location for a few days, like the Anza Borrego Desert or Inyo Mountain Range near Death Valley and they let me have the discount when I returned home.
I would not abuse their generosity and I’m not sure if they did it because I have purchased more airguns from them than I can remember and have an account and they may have recognized me from the blog or my unusual street name. I was all done over the phone. May be worth a try, but it is never the last great sales event with free shipping. More a get it now or wait thing, because I was getting it one way or the other.
Roamin,
As nice as the Crosman 362 Anniversary looks I actually prefer the way the synthetic stock feels in hand. Care to comment on it?
You can bet I will.
As soon as it is delivered. I just received word that Monday is the day.
Well at casa Frank….. I have been thoroughly examining all the pages of 25 caliber slugs available.
I have to say at a time when prices don’t even make sense to me there are some very reasonable offerings IMHO
And I come from a long line of cheap!
Well anyway that’s what I’m hoping for Santa to bring if I’ve been good enough.
Other than that, and wait to watch a Christmas story!
“A Christmas Story”! Yea! That is required watching around RRHFWA. My brother-in-law is not into airguns, but watches this movie every year.
Roamin Greco,
You can also use desiccants to dry the air and Oxygen absorbers if you don’t have a Nitrogen cylinder.
https://www.uline.com/Cls_39/Desiccants
As long as your container is reasonably well sealed they will keep your pellets pristine beyond YOUR personal expiration date, LOL!
shootski
Most interesting air rifle. Too bad I will not likely live long enough to get one of these and put it through its paces either. I will be lucky to do much with what I have here at RRHFWA without adding another one.
P.S.
H&N Sniper Magnum
Third Paragraph
After the 62nd shot I turned the power up to high and shot a single Seneca Hunting (Sniper Magnum?) pellet at 833 f.p.s.
RR,
No. I shot a Seneca Hunting pellet. Like I said at the beginning, I used that pellet to test the velocity after every two strings.
BB
I am good with that. I remember when they were Eun Jin. I still have some.
So, you tried to load a .22 pellet in a .177 barrel? The problem does become crystal clear right away. The other day I thought I had a tin of .22 pellets but found out the hard way that they were .177. Accuracy takes a steep dive when one makes this mistake! Anyway, great report on a very impressive rifle! Thanks!
BB,
Yes, you’re the Great Enabler but the truth is that we are all too willing to jump down that rabbit hole 🙂
Thanks for the report on the Avenge-X, the Canadian version (no baffles but with a longer barrel to make up the difference) is supposed to be available in December. …I’m not holding my breath though.
Been reading some good things about .177 slugs. The Avenge-X has the power, might be interesting to see if the barrel will stabilize them.
Happy Friday!
Hank
Very interesting. Personally, I am so interested to see in detail how one goes about tuning a pcp to a pellet. I’m assuming when you get to .22 there will be slightly fewer shots and perhaps you will test a boolet or two.
Am I missing something? The difference between high power and low power does not seem that significant. I am saying that as an complete pcp newbie, but I remember reading an article once about a wildlife control officer at an airport who used an Airforce pcp to kill larger pests, like woodchucks and seagulls, but then dialed down the power to kill smaller birds nesting in the rafters of the hangers without causing damage to the metal walls and roof. Can this gun be tuned to give a wider difference between high and low?
In my imagination, other than the pesting scenario above, I could envision someone turning the gun down low for routine short-range target practice, but then if an opportunity to exterminate some pest presents itself, to crank the power back up.
P.S. I appreciate that the gun came pre-set for less than maximum velocity, below hypersonic speeds, although some of your shots came pretty close. I am also curious if the number of shots is due to the efficiency of the valve and whether a larger bottle would then give a really astounding number of shots. Imagine filling this gun once for target practice and shooting an entire tin on one fill. That would really make the springer crowd jealous.
Very interesting airgun!
RG,
You can tune this gun down to where on low power it does not cause collateral damage, but the high setting will not be as high as some would like it. It will be decreased by what is close to a ratio as you are adjusting the size of the transfer port with the high and low power settings. With the AirForce airguns you are adjusting the hammer spring which in turn will adjust the length of time the valve will be knocked open.
You can also do this with the Avenge X, but it is not as easy or straight forward as with the AirForce airguns. The Avenge X is adjustable in every way you can think of, including the regulator. The AirForce airguns do not come equipped with a regulator, but they are available. My Talon SS has one.
Two “bad” things concerning the Avenge X is: 1) it is made in China. I know there are those out there that do not have an issue with such. I personally am not one of those. 2) they have a very high fill pressure. To me, when you go above 3000 PSI, I am not that crazy about it. I actually like using a hand pump.
RG, a gun shooting .22 caliber and .177 with the same settings, will a lot of times yield more shots with the .22.
I have a very early UK Gunpower Stealth, (think Airforce Talon SS without the power adjuster and limited to sub 12 ft lbs by the tank valve). With the UK tank installed it will get almost 500 shots per fill in .22 caliber, but swap the barrel to .177, and you get fewer shots.
I have encountered this in other pcp rifles as well, I don’t think I am qualified to explain the reason why, but I am sure there is someone on here that is qualified.
My thoughts are that it is the amount of back pressure of the smaller caliber causing the unregulated valve to stay open longer and possibly resulting in a higher air consumption.
Ian
B.B.,
In your paragraph under the heading, H & N SNIPER MAGNUM, your third sentence says, “The low was 664 and the high was 882 — a difference of 18 f.p.s.”
Kevin,
Yeah, that doesn’t work, does it? 😉
I corrected it. Thanks,
BB
BB
Still wondering about the high low power adjustment. Apparently it is two possible settings, low or high, and is immediate. It’s not a regulator because air pressure doesn’t need to be exhausted when adjusting down. It’s not the hammer spring tension which has variable settings. I just read parts 1 & 2 again and don’t think it has been explained. Or maybe I’m missing something.
Deck
Deck,
A different air transfer orifice.
BB
Deck,
I thought I had shown the power setting knob. I didn’t but you can see it in the description. Click on any picture to go there.
BB
BB
I see it clearly in the part 1 photo. It’s called the air transport knob there but has only two settings, high and low. I missed seeing that until now.
Deck
BB
Thanks. Interesting, practical and infinity. With 3 external ways to interact with each other plus pellet variables, level 3 statistics required to achieve the ultimate desired performance. Nice problem I hope.
Deck
BB-
I too was confused a bit by the single Seneca pellets (numbers 42 and 63) seeming out of place. But, then I had the head slap moment of realization as to the method of your testing.
I also think many of us readers need to be reminded of the reality of your (and others’) testing. This is observed data from a sample of one. Too many get wrapped around the axle when one tester’s data doesn’t match ‘X’. I teach firearm cartridge reloading. It takes a bit to get students past the fact that Book(L) doesn’t match Book (S) that doesn’t match Book (V) that doesn’t match Website (H).
Observed data points are just that. Points along the path of finding what works for you.
pac
Good point. I will say that one manufacturer’s reloading book showed data for 9 mm Parabellum that caused a problem. I blew the top off a P1 aluminum frame P-38 pistol. The load was only a mid range loading.
Deck
Pacoinohio,
“I teach firearm cartridge reloading.”
I believe I read someplace that underloading a cartridge can actually permit the powder combustion to reach peak pressure, complete combustion, before the bullet leaves the barrel and may blowup your gun.
If that’s true, does it only apply to a certain ammo size or is it a general rule for reloading?
Bob M-
To answer, without getting into ‘it’. One always has to pay attention to powder combustion ‘speed’. Slow to fast, combined with available free space within the cartridge case, overcoming bullet inertia, bullet crimp, proper primer choice, etc, etc…….
To simplify, the rules apply across the gamut of all ammo.
Beware of the reloader who only has one reloading manual. Check, check and recheck the data/loads before trying a load for ‘real’.
“Beware of the reloader who only has one reloading manual. Check, check and recheck the data/loads before trying a load for ‘real’.”
Man ain’t that the truth…
pacoinohio,
Thanks. Back in the days of my firearm shooting, I considered getting into reloading. I shot a lot but not regularly or for target shooting or hunting. The more I looked into it the more I realized I did not know enough about the subject to be safe. The same reason I did not jump into active stock market trading.
Not as simple as it seems, and I did not have all the time I believed it would take to know everything about it. There was still a lot of cheap surplus ammo available, and that turned out to be a bad decision as well. Finding two bullets parked in a bulged-out barrel was a little disturbing when I realized what could have happened.
Roamin,
I’m (sorta, in the background) working on a tuning blog that addresses most of what you are asking about.
Briefly, yes you can (usually) tune to a specific pellet at the desired performance level and (depending on the features present on the PCP) dial down for a low power application like indoor target shooting or in-barn pesting.
My Crown is tuned to 18 grain JSBs (@ 33 fpe) for normal use and 16 grain Hades pellets (@ 15ish fpe) for backyard pesting. I’ve also (just for tryzese) tuned to 25 grain JSBs with excellent performance. Didn’t keep that tune on the Crown
’cause my Impact is tuned for about 48 fpe using that pellet.
Best shot-count depends on a couple of things – volume and pressure of the reservoir, the design/tune of the airgun and the design, weight and fit projectile are the main ones. Shooting different weight pellets at different settings is not a good indicator.
Hank
Vana2,
Excellent!
shootski
That Avenge-X would make a fine addition to the Santa wish-list, but FM has got plenty of nice “toys” to play with right now; maybe ammunition should be on the list.
“Oh,oh-oh-oh-yohhhh — yes, I’m the Great Enabler.”
BB, great report…but my favorite part was the song parody…love it! 😉
B.B.,
Still better than being intentionally stupid!
“Now please put on your Aluminum Foil hat read the last sentence and check the pellet:
H&N Baracuda Match with 4.50mm heads
Next up were ten H&N Baracuda Match pellets. On high power they averaged 980 f.p.s., for a muzzle energy of 22.72 foot pounds. The low was 973 and the high was 1,000 f.p.s. for a spread of 27 f.p.s.
On low power the average velocity was 885 f.p.s., which is an energy of 18.53 foot pounds. The low was 883 and the high was 891 f.p.s. — a difference of 8 f.p.s.
After the 41st shot I turned the power up to high and shot a single Seneca Hunting pellet at 853 f.p.s.”
Back to the Seneca pellet?
Keep the Foil hat on:
“H&N Sniper Magnum
The last pellet I tested was the obsolete 15-grain H&N Sniper Magnum. On high power ten averaged 870 f.p.s. which is good for a muzzle energy of 25.22 foot-pounds. The low was 864 and the high was 882 — a difference of 18 f.p.s.
On low power ten averaged 786 f.p.s. which produced 20.58 foot pounds. The low was 783 and the high was 793 f.p.s. a difference of 10 f.p.s.
After the 62nd shot I turned the power up to high and shot a single Seneca Hunting pellet at 833 f.p.s. This was a decrease in velocity from the average of the first string (846 f.p.s.) but it was still faster than the slowest shot in that string (831 f.p.s.) So we are still on the power curve.
Shot count
I now switched back to the Seneca Hunting pellet for the final shots. Let’s look at the next couple strings with this pellet.
Shot……Vel.
64……….842…”
I understand switching back to the Seneca pellet for the final string but not for the other two pellets end of individual tests?
Intentionally or inadvertently?
shootski
PS: the source of confusion in this and perhaps other readers minds is this sentence in Shot Count: ”
I now switched back to the Seneca Hunting pellet for the final shots. Let’s look at the next couple strings with this pellet.”
You had already switched to the Seneca to shoot the last shot in the H&N Sniper Magnum series.
shootski,
The Seneca Hunting pellets were tested in the first string and they were also the heaviest pellets. After testing them for ten shots on high power we had a baseline of where the power of the rifle was.
After shooting the second ten pellets I wondered whether the rifle was still at the same power as it had been at the start, so I shot a single Seneca Hunting pellet to verify (or ascertain) where the power was. Since that pellet went out at 853 f.p.s. the rifle was still on the power curve.
After the second two strings I wondered whether the rifle was still at the same power as it had been after the first string, so I shot a single Seneca Hunting pellet to verify (or ascertain) where the power was. Since that pellet went out at 853 f.p.s. the rifle was still on the power curve.
After the third two strings I wondered whether the rifle was still at the same power as it had been at the start, so I shot a single Seneca Hunting pellet to verify (or ascertain) where the power was. Since that pellet went out at 833 f.p.s. I knew the rifle was still on the power curve, but was starting to decrease in power.
From that point on I shot only the Seneca Hunting pellet on high power to determine how the power of the rifle lasted. The rest is in the text of the report.
BB
B.B.,
Thank you for taking the time to write more on your testing concept.
The testing itself always seemed very logical to me just a little holprig* in the reading of what was done.
shootski
* holp·rig
/hólprig/
Adjektiv
1.
höckerig, uneben und dadurch schlecht zu befahren oder zu begehen
“eine holprige Fahrbahn”
2.
stockend, nicht fließend, nicht in gleichmäßigem Rhythmus [vorgebracht]
“in holprigem Englisch”
Translate holprig to
English
adjective
1. rough
2. jolty
adverb
1. jerkily
Well, I just had a fine, old gal move into RidgeRunner’s Home For Wayward Airguns. She immediately found a spot to hang on my Great Room wall with my BSA, my Webleys and my FLZ. She is in good company.
Well, tell us about her!
OP,
LOL! All in good time! I am going to have to do a little work on her first. Once she is ready to “come out”, I will bring her to the ball. 😉
RR.
We are interested in the latest addition.
Henry
LOL! I am afraid that both OP and you are going to have to wait a while longer.
B.B. and USA Readership,
OFF TOPIC ALERT
https://fee.org/articles/the-feds-vehicle-kill-switch-mandate-is-a-gross-and-dangerous-violation-of-privacy/?utm_medium=related_widget
I was looking for something and an organization that has been around since 1946 and a trusted in print resource for my family turned this above piece of unbelievable intrusion on all our LIBERTIES.
Read it and see if it should be known all over our great Land and shouted down!
Remember, i am a strong believer in Librarian Values.
shootski
Shootski,
It was a MSN home page story a bit back. “Passively monitors performance of a driver” for impairment and prevents or limits motor vehicle operation. I would never reach my destination with that installed.
How would they determine the difference between impairment and aggressive driving? And how many accidents would it actually cause without situational awareness being involved? I would not bank on it happening.
shootski,
what a monster that was created years ago and will soon enough awaken to bite you and every other traveler, just as planned.
The excuse you’re offered, seems to be to protect you, while here in Europe, it seems to be to protect the environment.
This is happening via our annual Euro regulations, currently at number 5, ie software versions installed into onboard computers with ever more monitoring and control functions (possibly remotely too). Finally, I hear that there is some kind of Net Zero plan, meant to reduce black footprints or something, but I fear, really to reduce travel and stop personal transport.
hihihi,
See my next OT.
shootski
Shootski-
Thank you for a good read. Refer back to R Reagan’s nine terrifying words.
pacoinohio,
See my next OT.
shootski
That’s a sobering read – no pun intended for once, shootski. Things like this happen when citizens become complacent and lazy about engaging the political system through voting and demanding answers plus corrective action, when required, from the politicos and their bureaucrats. When the latter refuse to heed the will of the people then they must be punished by being voted out, removed and/or sued.
Meanwhile, we will have to hope a generation of libertarian techie kill-switch killers arises to sabotage such nonsense out of existence.
FawltyManuel,
See my next OT.
shootski
Insurance companies used to have trackers that wouldnplug into your car’a computer to monitor driving habits and reward good driving habits. Then there is the GPS that may, may not, but probably do record your every move. Not much of a stretch to hook it to the ignition like they do with folks who have been convicted of drunk driving need to blow into a device to start the car.
.177 – CAL Hunting Pellet?
My first thought was “That’s an oxymoron” Then I looked it up. Apparently, it’s a newly designed pellet to perform well in high powered PCP airguns only and it also comes in .22 and .25-cal. Way to go Seneca!
Bob M,
Interesting how many folks have bought this Seneca pellet without reading about it not working well in springers, multi pumps, and moderate power PCPs.
It will be interesting to see Tom’s accuracy test results if he does them at high and low power with the AV Avenge X.
shootski
B.B. and ALL of the Readership,
OFF TOPIC ALERT
A little more upbeat than my last OT Post! Maybe, maybe not. Depends on if each of us does SOMETHING!
The Never Ending Story
Did you watch it or did you pass it by as being a kid film?
https://fee.org/articles/confronting-the-nothing-the-true-moral-of-the-neverending-story/
Enjoy!
shootski
shootski,
due to being a fantasy style film, I have yet to watch ‘The Neverending Story’.
To reply in kind, ie via the words of others, I would refer to the writings of Caitlin Johnstone, who, in a nutshell, believes that humanity would do well to evolve from a competitive to a supportive society.
Therefore the sheeple are no threat but the wolves are! 🙂
hihihi,
Read something like that. How wonderful it would be to turn humans into a colony of ants. Dangerous people out there.
Shootski,
I believe the graphics caught my attention, enjoyed the movie enough to record it somewhere in one of my two terabyte external hard drives, if I remember correctly.
I never made the connection to today’s society but after reading that wonderfully articulated analogy it’s all too clear. We can’t take anything for granted anymore. Thanks for the read.
I wonder if they purposely left out Magnum Springers or it was a simple oversight for the use of Seneca Hunting pellets?
Thanks BB for the report, and do not worry – my wife will not blame you. I am a self-enabler.
This blog is timely because I am all but decided to get an Avenge-X in .22, as a Holliday present, with the main doubt remaining about the stock: plastic, tactical or wood. I confess to a slight preference for the latter.
Maybe your experiences or Ian’s will help with the decision.
Nice weekend to all!
Henry
Shootski,
OTA. And then I just read this news story, “Democrats try to strip candidates from the ballot in the name of democracy”. Yes, we are in trouble.
It can be found in a few places on the internet using those exact words in a search. I read the one from ‘the hill dot com’.
Well, it appears the Seneca Hunter and Eun-Jin pellets are one and the same after a closer look.
Bob M,
Yes i had a friend send me a text msg about that The Hill piece…too bad we live in what is a Constitutional Federal Republic. Our Constitution seems to indicate that we should elect our representation by a democratic system and NOT by a Republican or Democrat scheme of exclusion.
Unfortunately we will likely not get the chance to ever elect a Libertarian Administration since both of parties have frightened the voters out of ever doing what would probably be best for ALL.
Some of the Korean pellets (by either name) have been shown to work quite well in true STEROID 392 with 8-14 pumps. I doubt a regular 392 could do it. I know i have one in .22 caliber that can; Tim always said Heavy and Slow still knocks them down.
shootski
Blog Topic?
Monopod, Bipod, Tripod, over / under barrel, vertical, angled, pivoting / fixed. Mid mount or fwd mount, single butt stock or a bag of sand or beans?
Is there a stability benefit to having a bipod angled out front about 45 degrees or is it just a simpler way to adjust the height? Or both? Just happened to be looking at competition shooters. Add weight support to that.
Could get complicated on a round rock? Be interesting to identify the benefits of one type over another and which type is preferable for any given shooting situation.
Well … delay my last. There is a ton of information out there on them. Even Wikipedia had a go at it.
Stability, weight reduction assistance, maneuverability, environment situation adjustments and on and on.
Bob M,
I like the US $400.00+ ones!
Only on my heavy Machineguns and Mortars!
My bags are filled with heavy sand on the bottom and plastic pellets/dry beans; if they have ears…
I do actually like: Shooting Slings, Shooting Rolls (for kneeling) and Shooting Mats for prone.
shootski
Guys,
The .177 cal died in US (for the dark side). Do you agree?