Gamo Shadow 1000 Combo - one of the best buys in Gamo's line!
By B.B. Pelletier
If you want to get into adult airgunning, the Gamo Shadow 1000 combo is an affordable entry.
Great power in a lightweight package
Of all Gamo's line, the Shadow 1000 is unique because of its light weight and easy cocking, yet powerful punch! Most Gamo rifles shoot a light .177 pellet at around 1,000 f.p.s., but this one does it in a package that's nearly the same size and weight as Beeman's little R7! That's packing a lot into a very small package.
The Gamo 1000 has a very grippy synthetic stock that is a trifle short compared to the average adult spring rifle. That means this rifle fits a much wider range of adults. Cocking effort is under 30 lbs., which is reasonable for the power.
Tru-Glo sights are standard
You don't HAVE to scope a Gamo 1,000. It comes with great open sights. But the combo package includes the scope and mounts for less than $30 extra, and that's well worth it. The scope is a BSA 4x32mm, which will be very bright. Since the Gamo 1000 has a scope stop built in, there is nothing more to buy than pellets.
Accuracy secrets
To get your 1000 shooting its best, REST the forearm on the open palm of your hand at the balance point. If you move forward to rest the cocking slot on your palm, my experience shows the gun will shoot all over the place. Don't hold the gun tightly anywhere, including the butt against your shoulder. Let the rifle kick freely, and you'll be rewarded with tight groups.
Never rest a spring gun directly on sandbags, cushions or any other material. They want to ride lightly on your open hand. And, NEVER grab the stock like a firearm or you will throw away all the accuracy the gun has. This is how top shooters hold their guns!
Gamos respond best to LOTS of shooting
Gamos are unique - they come right out of the box ready to go in many respects. I've never seen a prolonged break-in improve accuracy or velocity with one. However, the trigger needs LOTS of shots to smooth out. It's a lot like the old German BSF rifles that started out with horrible triggers and, after 4,000 shots, had smoothed out considerably. Veteran Gamo owners will tell you that the creepy trigger becomes sweeter with every shot you fire.
The trigger adjustments don't seem to change much when the gun is new. But after a few thousand shots, you can get the trigger adjusted to a good release. It will never rival a Rekord trigger, but it will be better than when brand new.
Which pellets to use?
Usually, I like Gamo pellets, but the Gamo rifles are too powerful for their Match wadcutters at anything beyond 15 yards. I would try Crosman Premiers in the 7.9-grain weight or JSB Exacts. I would expect the JSBs to be the best, but only if your shooting technique is very good.
The Gamo 1000 is perhaps the best buy in the entire Gamo line, and this combo makes it that much better. If you've wanted to step up to adult airguns, this package makes it easy. Let's hear what veteran Gamo owners have to say!
posted by B.B. Pelletier @ 4:30 AM
449 comments
449 Comments:
What kind of shot groups can you achieve with this gun at 30+ yards?
When everything goes my way, I can keep them all on a quarter at 25 yards with this rifle. I don't have an exact 30-yard group size to give you, but it would be just a little bigger.
A quarter is within a few thousandths of one inch, so keeping them ON the quarter means a group of just under an inch.
B.B.
"Never rest a spring gun Directly on sandbags, cushions or any other material." Does this indicate that you cannot rest a break-barrel on something for support, and would it also mean that you can't use a bipod with a spring gun? Plus what does "grabbing the stock like a firearm" mean?
Yes, that is what I meant. Don't rest a breakbarrel spring gun (or MOST spring guns) on anything but the flat of your palm for best accuracy.
As far as bipods are concerned, I don't have any experience with them on springers, so I can't say how they will do.
Grabbing the stock like a firearm refers to the tight two-handed hold shooters use with powerful rifles. To hold most springers like that is to throw away all the accuracy potential in them.
Give it a try and see what happens.
B.B.
can buy a scope seperate from your gun?
Yes,
On Pyramyd Air's website, click on Accessories near the top of the page, then click on Scopes, to see all the models of separate scopes they have.
B.B.
i bought the gamo shadow 1000 and it's great. the sights on the rifle are awesome. i can hit an 8oz soda can at 70 yards(i hit 9 out of 10 shots on average). it's a great air rifle.
I had one I (regretfully) traded it in for a Gamo 850 the sound as a big factor.
I have a silver shadow supreme and like it very much. I expect I will like it more when it get's back from the tune.
How about an update when your gun comes back?
B.B.
I would like to Know what do you think of the gamo cf-x fixed barrel in terms of power and accuracy.
BB, My friend bought a Gamo varmint hunter.Is this a good air rifle?
Thanks BB.
HERNAN
This is for both Gamo questions,
Gamo is the OTHER brand. While they are priced inexpensively, I think they're a great buy for the money. And they wear in to become much smoother, after many thousands of shots.
The CF-X has the same rotary breech as BSA, which is no surprise, since Gamo owns BSA. My experience was with a BSA Superstar single shot that had the same rotary breech as the CF-X. That rifle was smooth and accurate, if a bit heavy. The CF-X looks lighter, so I suppose it's just as handy as most breakbarrel rifles.
The Gamo Varmint Hunter packs a heck of a lot of value into one package! The gun at the heart of it seems to be a Shadow 1000, though the name Hunter indicates it's a different rifle. I believe the Shadow is itself a derrivative of the Hunter series, which explains the familiarity. I really like the Shadow, so I would also like the Varmint Hunter, I'm sure.
B.B.
BB,Thanks for you super fast replay.
I would like to know for both gamo questions witch pellet you suggest for both the cf-x and varmint hunter.
BB,Im new in airgunning.The gamo scopes dont come assembled in the rifle.I know that you have posted a lot of those articles but since im new I dont understand what you mean.I just want to get the best accuracy out of my air rifle.I would appreciate if you can tell me in a simpler way how to mount and sight in the scope.
Thanks
Hernan
BB,
I would like to know if you can put a large scope on a underleveler air rifle.And if you can will it a problem when you put the pellett in the rotary breach.Im thinking of buying a Leapers 12x44-50.I want to know if this kind of scope fits and wich moder you suggest for a gamo cf-x{I will use it to just shoot cans and have fun}.thanks bb
Hernan
Sorry bb I wrote moder and it was model, scope model.
Hernan
Hernan,
Pellet recomendations are Beeman Kodiaks, JSB Exact domed and Crosman Premiers in both weights.
Yes, the Leapers scope will fit if you use a high mount. I recommend B-Square high mounts (10101).
For the Leapers scope you wrote 12x44-50. I think you meant 4-12x44 30mm. Now that scope has a 30mm tube, so the rings you get must be 30mm, not one-inch. If you want to avoid that problem, try the 3-9x50 AO scope. It has a one-inch tube.
B.B.
Hernan,
What has been posted about scope mounting is the simplest way I can suggest. But there is an alternative.
The simplest way is to buy a combo and let Pyranyd Air mount the scope for you. I believe they will do that for any scope they have and send the rifle to you in a hard case. You just have to pay extra for the service.
B.B.
Regarding the airgun laws in Puerto Rico, I am researching the laws and it will take some time. I will get back to you as soon as I have something.
B.B.
BB! Its me Hernan.I Need your help!I was searching in my granpas closet and found a SHERIDAN BLUE STREAK but my dad used it when he was 13 and hes 47 now and the rifle was old when my dad got it.I dont know but I think I have one of the originals.I wanted to know if you could get me the info on my blue streak.The serial number is 188138.I just want to know how old it is and if I have a good collectors rifle.Its in very good condition.This is what the rifle says on the left side"BLUE STREAK"5m/m CAL.And before that is the serial number"188138".On the right side it says Sheridan Products Inc and below it says something but the stock is high and cant see it well.Please BB heelp me get the info on my rifle.
Thanks.
Hernan
BB! Its me Hernan.I Need your help!I was searching in my granpas closet and found a SHERIDAN BLUE STREAK but my dad used it when he was 13 and hes 47 now and the rifle was old when my dad got it.I dont know but I think I have one of the originals.I wanted to know if you could get me the info on my blue streak.The serial number is 188138.I just want to know how old it is and if I have a good collectors rifle.Its in very good condition.This is what the rifle says on the left side"BLUE STREAK"5m/m CAL.And before that is the serial number"188138".On the right side it says Sheridan Products Inc and below it says something but the stock is high and cant see it well.Please BB heelp me get the info on my rifle.
Thanks.
Hernan
i have just got a new gamo shadow 1000 and i was i was wondering if u new how to site the open sites
Congratulations on your new Gamo Shadow 1000! It's a great airgun and I know you'll like it a lot.
As far as sighting in those sights, I will do a special post for you tomorrow.
B.B.
Airgun laws in Puerto Rico,
This is a link to the latest stats-by-state airguns laws, compiled by The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives (ATF).
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/statelaws/26thedition/
For Puerto Rico, it says the following,
"460a. Pneumatic weapons. By provision of the Congress of the United States, 15 U.S.C.A. Section 5001, legislation on pneumatic weapons in Puerto Rico is preempted, therefore, the sale or use thereof cannot be prohibited, except their sale to minor under eighteen (18) years of age."
B.B.
BB is this scope good and does it fit the gamo cf-x?I ask because the cf-x is underleveler and I dont want to have problems loading.Also do you have to mount it high and with what rings.Leapers 3-9x40 AO Mil-Dot Scope with R/G LESCP-394AOMDL.Thanks and sorry for being a pest.
Hernan
how does the gamo compare to a beeman? the beeman is so much more expensive. it makes me wonder about quality, performance etc.
butzbach,
I could give you a quick answer, but this is a very interesting question. How about I make this a posting early next week?
B.B.
Good afternoon B.B.,
Question for you. I'm a high-power rifle shooter who got into airguns so I don't have to travel to the range. I have a Gamo NRA special edition Shadow 1000 and was just reading your accuracy secrets for the 1000.
You noted two things: "REST the forearm on the open palm of your hand at the balance point." and "Never rest a spring gun directly on sandbags, cushions or any other material."
So generally, with the forearm of the gun supported at the balance point by your left hand, what supports your left hand? This afternoon, I was shooting the 1000 prone supported by one of my high-power rifle sandbags. (My left hand was under the butt of gun) When I tried supporting the rifle with just my left hand, the muzzle was way too low.
Is it okay to put the gun on the left hand with the left hand supported by the sandbag?
Or, maybe I should open up my question and just ask how generally do you like to shoot a gun for best accuracy? Prone? Off of a rest?
thanks,
ben
Ben,
I lay my left hand on the sandbags. It seems that most spring rifles want to lay directly on flesh, rather than sandbags. I don't know any reason why this would be the case, but it certainly seems to be.
That said, I jst finished an accuracy test with a Gamo CF-X that didn't like this approach and wanted to be directly on the bag. So, go figure.
I shoot off a bench for the majority of my air rifle accuracy tests. I sometimes use a bipod rest (on the bench), too, as that seems to be very good for non-recoiling guns.
The object, with spring-piston airguns, is to let them recoil as much as they can. That seems to eliminate any influences that throw the pellet wide.
I hope this helps. Please read the more recent test of the Gamo CF-X.
B.B.
Good afternoon B.B.,
Thanks for the quick reply. I will give it a try the next time I'm shooting the Gamo. I had hoped to do so this afternoon, but it's cold and windy outside! I could deal with just the cold, but the wind makes it just too much.
I went back and read your CF-X accuracy test - odd that it doesn't behave like other springers. I wonder if this behavior is across the whole CF-X series, or just the particular specimen tested? I've experianced firearms that are like that - for instance, my Remington 597 (.22RF autoloader) shoots dime-size 5-shot groups at 50 yards all day long. Yet, other 597's seem to do much worse.
One of my projects when Spring arrives is to build a shooting bench for the back yard. :)
thanks much!
-ben
Ben,
RE: your 597, it's taken me 40 years to learn the lesson of never getting rid of a good shooter. As for the CF-X being an anomoly, I'd say my test provides a good starting point for other shooters.
B.B.
Hi B.B.,
Totally agree with you about good shooters - never get rid of them! What's even more special about that 597 is due to a combination of sales and a store-wide discount, that 597 was under $90 out the door. :)
I'm considering buying a CF-X - got a bigger tax refund than anticipated and am bouncing around between a CF-X or something by RWS. No specific interest area for it, just a mix of recreational target shooting and perhaps varmint elimination.
thanks much!
ben
Been using the 1000 since Sept. '05, and have had nothing but great experiences with it. However, as with ALL high power pellet rifles is finding the right type of ammo for your shooting style and type of target. I generally use heavier weighted ammo such as the "Beeman" Silver Arrow pointed pellet (11.50 gr.). Very, very tight grouping with it. However, it's fun to turn heads with Gamo's new gold "Raptor" hypervelocity rounds. It's much lighter, but the sonic crack you get with it is lotza fun.
Also for tele sights. I started with a Powerline 3-9 X 32 that looks very impressive, but took forever to adjust the sight in, better for longer range, larger targets. The other day, just messing around, I attached my Crosman 760's 4 X 15 and went to town. No adjustments required (25 yards on a 3" target and got 9/10 on the center 10). Not as sexy as the Powerline scope, but much lighter.
In short, the Shadow is a lot of gun for the money that shoots great right out of the box.
Hey i dont know how much you guys have been using this latley but im thinking of getting a gamo varmint hunter, it just sounds like a good choice and has alot of good features. One thing ive been looking for, for a long time is How Far Does It Shoot??? Thanks for your help.
-Jason
Jason
Also im not sure how you would sight the scope, and i dont really wanna have to pay someone to do it for me, do you know,(in a nutshell) how to aim a scope?(hopefully it has understandable directions-if any)
Thanks
Jason, Jason,
All pellet rifle have a maximum range of about 500 yards.
Maximum usable range depends on the shooter more than the gun. Figure about 50-60 yards for your Gamo.
You can do a search on the home page of this blog and find many posts about scope mounting.
There are also many articles on the Pyramyd Air articles library dealing with scopes.
B.B.
Thank you.
I just purchased this pellet rifle after reading all of these helpful reviews. Right out the box the Crosman Premier Hollow Points shot fairly low. I couldn't adjust the scope to compensate so I switched to the Crosman Pointed Premium grade pellets. Once I made the switch I was literally burning the centers out of the targets. I noticed the Hollow Points fight tighter in the chamber than the Pointed pellets. The pointed brand slid right in the chamber without any effort at all.
Has anyone else noticed anything like this?
Thanks for any input.
Dan
Ok so I ordered one of the combo's. The day after I ordered it I saw the same gun minus the scope at Walmart. I figured what the heck I would buy the one at Walmart then compare the two.
I bought a Daisy Powerline 3x9x32 scope for the one from Walmart. Something of interest for any potential buyer. The Gamo Shadow 1000 from Walmart has a simple plate scope stop screwed directly into the top of the receiver. The box advertises the movable stop like the one sold here, but that's just not what you get.
After shooting the Walmart gun coupled with the Powerline scope for a while I got to where I could shoot some pretty decent groups. I did notice I would have one pellet that would just fly way out of the grouping for no apparent reason. Later while cleaning the rifle I felt the bore brush scrape against something near the muzzle. When I shined a light inside I could see the plastic part of the front site going into the barrel causing an obstruction. I thought some of my shots were making irregular holes on the targets. I marked it up as just odd paper tares. Now I am assuming I am having some bullet tumbling issues.
At any rate I decided to wait on the Combo I ordered from Pyramid. It came today and I can see quite a few differences between the two guns even though they are supposed to be the same. The groove for the scope goes all the way down the Walmart gun into that plastic cap, it stops before the cap on the Pyramid gun. The recoil pads are different and the pellets fit much looser in the chamber on the Pyramid gun. So loose in fact that I am tossing them out of the chamber when I close the breech. Also when I first opened the box I broke open the barrel to run a cleaning pad through. Right when I opened it I saw the rubber O Ring had a section torn on the bottom. Is this O ring easy to change out?
Just a little frustrated after buying two new guns and seeing both of them have issues right out of the box.
I appreciate any input.
CH
CH,
For starters, the "tear" you see in the O-ring is probably meant to be there. Don't touch it! Some O-rings have a notch to help the air get under them so they can seal better.
Secondly, Wal-Mart nearly ALWAYS contracts for the cheapest version of anything they stock! Small businesses like gun manucacturers are willing to play along, and they cheapen the cheapest thing they make, just for Wally World.
Lever Brothers and Coke simply say, "Take it or leave it." and Wal Mart folds. The exception with a large company is only in the packaging or the fact that they will produce Wal Mart's house brand to compete with theirs. Gamo and Remington are too small for that.
B.B.
The Gamo 1000's are truley amazing air rifles, just 3 days ago, i set up a dasani bottle 151 yards away, and hit it twice in 20 shots, the rest landed within about a foot of the bottle, thats a pretty good MOA for a pellet gun.
B.B. I need your help. i'm not sure whether to buy the shadow 1000 with the vermint combo kit on it or just buy the vermint hunter 1000. the gun itself both look the same but i'm sure if all the internals are the same. Please tell me which gun i should purchase.
thanks,
Ken
Ken,
The guns are identical. What this cobo does is save you money on the scope and rings. If you want to mount a different scope, then the plain rifle would be the thing to buy.
B.B.
I'm trying to decide whether to buy a Gamo 850 Carbine, or a Shadow 1000 Stainless steel version. The 850 comes around $112, while the Shadow comes up to around $162 or so. I thought I might get the shadow for it's open sights, I like to take off my scope once in a while for more of a challenge. However, I was originally hoping to spend around $100 so I'm not sure. I know the shadow is a great rifle from your review, what about the 850 Carbine? Sort of leaning toward a shadow at the moment though :)
Thanks
I have a question here myself. I am fairly new to Air Rifles, but from what I have seen I am positive I want a Gamo. When I first looked I was hoping to find something for around $100. The Gamo 850 Carbine was in that range, but recently I found a Shadow 1000 stainless combo for only $150, so I have also been thinking about that. Any comments on the 850 Carbine? And do you think the Shadow is worth the extra $50? Right now I'm leaning toward wanting the Shadow, because it also has open sights, which I love; I enjoy taking off the scope every now and then for some open sight shots. Which would you recomend?
Thank you!
Gamo 850,
The 850 looks like a very nice gun, but I would go for the Shadow. It seems to be what you want.
If you are new to the hobby, buy the best pellets, which in this case are JSB Exact 8.4-grain domed pellets, and really enjoy your new airgun.
B.B.
Good day B.B.,
I was just wondering what you thought about using Crosman premier super point pellets with this rifle. Are they more accurate than the crosman premier hollow points? Also my rifle shoots pretty accurately with a Daisy Powerline 3-9x32 Scope, but occasionally will throw a pellet way wildly off track but in different direction each time it happens. What do you think could be the cause of this.
I don't like shooting any Crosman pellets except the genuine Premiers (they only come in a cardboard box) in a powerful spring rifle. Crosman pellets are made from too hard a lead alloy to expand the skirt when fired, and they are too small (except for the real Premiers).
However, the proof is in the testing, so why not try them?
B.B.
I just got one of the Shadow 1000 combos from Big 5 yesterday and I love it. Bout my only druthers is that the synthetic stock-witch is extremly well made, no gripes there-seems to transmit more of the vibration. This is my first hi-power airgun, but I have shot a buddie's-don't remember what kind-with a wood stock and it seemed a bit smoother. 'Course it was also a good deal more spendy. Do you know if Gamo makes a wood stock for this? It's not a big issue, like I said, I love this thing, right on price, accuracy, and features
Chris
Chris,
I know that Gamo does not make a wood stock for the Shadow. I don't know whether any other stock they make would fit.
Wood is very difficult for Europeans to obtain - especially in the quantities needed for popular guns like the Shadow. The price would have to be so much higher that they don't even consider it.
B.B.
Hi BB,
I wanted to know if you could find out the air gun laws in South Africa.
I know you live in America or some where around there and it's far from here but i really need to know them.
Thank you.
You can find them out by researching the internet.
I do know that any .22 caliber airgun is considered a firearm there.
B.B.
Thanks BB,
i'll try that.
B.B. PELLETIER,
ive got the gamo shadow 1000 and i wanted to know if it could make a pellet go supersonic?
and if it can, what pellets can do it?
Thanks.
Sure you can go supersonic. Gamo Raptor pellets will do it easily. Just don't try to actually HIT anything!
B.B.
ARE THERE ANYOTHER PELLETS THAT CAN GO SUPERSONIC?
The lightweight Skencos migh go supersonic in a Shadow. Anf that's about it.
B.B.
Hey B.B. in order to clear up a squirrel and woodchuck infestation at my house I went air rifle shopping at walmart. they had the gamo and the daisy powerline 1000. I opted for the daisy because it was cheaper and came with a scope and after reading this blog Im beginning to regret it. I havent been getting great accuracy out of the thing but this is my first high powered air rifle and Ive never used a scope before. Do you have any experience with the daisy? Am I just a bad shot or is this gun a piece of crap? I can get good groupings with my old red ryder and much better groupings with a .22 but Im having some serious issues with this thing. I was hoping to be able to get 5 shots under a quarter at 30 yards but the best I can put together is 5 shots under a cd. Thanks a lot for your help. -Rob.
Rob,
A couple things may improve your groups.
First, use the right pellet. The JSB Exact, Crosman Premier and Beeman Kodiaks are the only ones I would try in your rifle. Try both the light and heavy Exacts and Premiers. I'm speaking about domed pellets, which are the best for accuracy in sporting sprig rifles. And the only real Premiers are the ones in cardboard boxes.
Second, hold the gun as loose as possible. REST it on the flat of your hand. Don't grasp the stock with your fingers. And don't rest it on ANYTHING but your hand. Don't hold the pistol grip tight and don't hold the gun tight to your shoulder. This should cut your group size in half at least.
B.B.
Hi B.B. pelletier,
ive got the gamo shadow 1000 and i wanted to know what it is capable of braking and shooting through?
Thanks
The best way to find that out is to do it.
B.B.
I am 12 years old and i just wanted to say that i have the gamo shaow 1000 and that today (17/august/2006) i shot a 2 inches big tile from 50 feet away off a tree stump,
and thay say this thing is accurate at all here in South Africa, i dont think they know what they are talking about.
but any this is a fantastic rifle great accuracy, power and looks.
Wesley
Wesley,
Good to hear from you.
B.B.
B.B.-thanks a lot for the response. loose hold does indeed increase accuracy somewhat. I just ordered a batch of crosman premier in both the heavy and light weights. In general are heavier pellets more accurate at distances of 25-40 yards? Also, which would be better for hunting? Thanks a lot. -Rob
Rob,
The only way to know which pellet is acurate is by testing. There are always surprises.
B.B.
B.B. pelletier,
is it possable to become a sharp shooter with the gamo shadow 1000 like they do with real firearms?
Of course it is. In fact, these guns will actually make anyone a better firearm shooter because of the disciplines they teach.
B.B.
B.B. pelletier,
is the BSA AR 4X32mm scope any good on the GAMO SHADOW 1000?
because many people say because the rifle is so strong you have to set it like every 10 shots so i wanted to find out if the scope is any good and if its true you have to set it like every 10 shots?
BSA scope,
Who are you talking to? Please read the past postings on scopes to see why they change zero. If you DON'T do those things, they should not change - ever!
Yes, the BSA scope will work on the Gamo Shadow 1000. It's not a hard-recoilling airgun anyway.
B.B.
BB,
OMG, you're the best, i love all the new things I'm learning by reading all the comments and reviews.
My question: I'm deciding on buying Gamo either shadow 1000 combo or the new shadow sport, which one do you think is better as far as power and accuracy is concerned, I will be using this for back yard fun and getting rid of some varmints.
Bobby,
The Shadow 1000 and the Shadow Sport are the same rifle with different finishes and stocks. The 1200 f.p.s. velocity of the Sport is with the lightweight Raptor pellet that you probably won't shoot because it isn't accurate. For accuracy, you want to keep the velocity under about 900 f.p.s., so you will use heavier pellets in either of these two rifles.
I would say get the one thst looks best to you.
B.B.
BB,
Thanks a million for your super fast respond...Bobby
Hello, I have a Shadow 1000, love the gun. I upgraded to a BSA scope which makes it even better. Problem is that the kick of the gun moves the scope back about a 1/16 of an inch for each shot. The scope moves back until the scope mount reaches the end of the groove and then breaks. It's done this twice now. Any suggestions on how to keep the scope mounted stationary?
Gamo 1000,
I thought the 1000 had a positive scope stop hole. Doesn't it?
B.B.
Nope, not mine anyway. It just has the smooth groove, 3/8 inch, then it flairs out at the back, once the scope mount wedges against this, it breaks.
B.B. Thanks for the BEST blog out there,
I have learned more about air rifles here than anywhere else. I just wanted to chime in with my Shadow 1000 experience. Last year I saw my first adult air gun, my buddie bought a Beeman GS1000 and it was the first pellet gun I had seen that actually looked like a real gun, it was also the first time I had ever seen a breakbarrel rifle. It was all I could think about for weeks, so when I got the money I convinced my wife to let me get one. I ended up at walmart and bought the Shadow 1000 ($119.99), I knew nothing about it. All I knew is that it looked nice and it was a break barrel and that I could afford it. I brought it home and just just loved it. It was only afte shooting it and reading about it online that I realized I had done pretty good. When I showed it to my buddie he liked it almost better than his Beeman, he liked the lighter weight and the loud whack it made when we were plinking at his house (he has metal spoons at 20 and 30 yards). Since then I bought the marksman 2004 ($45 LOVE IT) and a XS-B21 ($75 used, love it too) and my buddie has bought the Marsman 2004 (he Loves it) and a Sumatra Carbine (he Loves that too, but it is way too loud and powerful for his small plinking course). As far as it being a cheaper model Shadow at walmart, mine has the the grooves that stop an inch or so before the plastic cap and came with the adjustable back stop. For a small investment and a little research I feel I have done really well in investing in this great hobby.
After reading this blog for the last few months and wanting to get something that is .22 cal I am following your recommendation on a Benjamin 392, I was really drawn toward springers because you don't have to pump them multible times but from everything I have read it is the ability to change the power that is one of the great features of the 392. Hopefully one day I will have a larger budget but until then I have found that airguns can be inexpensive if you do a little research. Thanks for all the time you put into this for all of us - Applemaniac
Gamo 1000,
Okay, you need a round hole drilled ay the back of the scope rail. A scope stop pin drops into this hole.
Call Gamo and ask them what to do.
B.B.
Applemaniac,
Welcome to the world of airguns! Please tell your wife I'm sorry!
B.B.
is there a gun very simular to this one with Co2 instead. which is better; Co2 or spring? im kind of new in this airsoft gun catagory!
This is a pellet rifle, not an airsoft gun.
There is no easy answer to your question about which airgun is bewtter. It's like asking whether gas or diesel makes a better truck fuel.
B.B.
BB, I would also like to say I have learned a lot from you.
I was just wondering about variable power scopes because I bought a Daisy Powerline 3x-9x scope and I have never been able to calibrate it. I heard that fixed powers are more accurate. Also are there any good tips for calibrating the scope (location, technique, etc). THank you very much.
Mohamed
Mohamed,
I don't know what you mean by calibrating the scope.Do you mean sighting in?
Read Tom Gaylord's article "All about scopes ,Part 3 - sighting in" on the Pyramyd Air website. It gives you a very simple way to do it.
B.B.
The Realtree looks like a Gamo a 440 Hunter (wood stock).
B.B.
hi b.b. pelletier,
i just wanted to find out if it is illegal to shoot in your back yard?
Thanks
It is VERY illegal to shoot in MY back yard. But I think you want to know about your own yard. Check with the police in your community who know those ordinances that change from town to town.
B.B.
Hi i was just wondering, what is the best air rifle (spring piston) gun available thats under $200? Thanks
I think the best value at that price is the Gamo CF-X.
B.B.
hey, this is the person that said "what is the best air rifle (spring piston) gun available thats under $200?" Can i make that any gun under $215 :)
THX FOR REPLYING SO FAST!!!!!!!!!!
two questions:
1- What ammo would you recommend for the CFX
2- Why does the Shadow 1000 get such hugh reviews from users, yet the CFX doesnt
SORRY I MEANT TO SAY GREAT NOT HUGH
I just recently purchased the Gamo Cadet Delta, and I was hoping to add a scope to my rifle. I purchased this rifle as it is the first air gun that I have owned or used, and I hope (after getting enough money/practice) to purchase the Gamo Shadow 1000 in the future (is Wal-Mart's really worse? It's cheaper and I was hoping to get that later). But anyways, the description of the rifle says that it has a grooved receiver for a scope, but there are no holes for a scope stop. The Cadet Delta is a 525 fps air springer (muzzle break) and I was wondering if a scope would be pointless without a scope stop, or if the small recoil would allow it to hold zero. Also, I was thinking of picking up a $30 Daisy Powerline 3x9 scope with cheap mounts (will work up to get better mounts in the future). Again, is this scope too cheap to even bother with? (My ironsights when used normally have me hitting almost 8 inches too low at 10 yards, so I have adopted a new form of sighting which gives me a tight grouping and higher shots). Any suggestions on what scopes to use/if any scope can be added would be appreciated (I have little money right now, but if a cheap Wal-mart scope would suck then I might as well save up).
P.S. I have read the extensive posts on scope mounting and sighting, but nothing mentions rifles without scope stops.
$215,
Read today's blog.
B.B.
Gamo 1000 vs CF-X,
You aren't reading all the reviews if you think the CF-X doesn't get good ones. On this blog it gets at least as many good reports as the 1000.
B.B.
Air Gun Newbie,
The Delta is probably smooth enough to get by with scope mount clamping, alone, but you DON'T want cheap mounts if you're going to rely on just clamping pressure. Get some AccuShot rings that will give you the clamping pressure you need.
The Daisy scope is too lightly built for a recoiling air rifle, but Crosman has a good one for a nice price. Their 4032 would hold up, plus it's a much nicer view. Since it comes with good mounts, that's all you have to buy.
B.B.
B.B. Pelletier,
What is the most accurate scope you can get at any price (even if it's really expensive)for the gamo shadow 1000?
Thanks.
Scopes are not "accurate." They have features that lend themselves to better viewing or better aiming, but all scopes are approximately equal in terms of how accurate they are.
Are you looking for as little achromatic distortion as possible? Or do you want as little edge distortion as you can get? Or are you looking for a very rugged scope?
Don't say "all of the above," because that will get you three different scopes.
Here's the deal. You can pay a bundle of money on a car. What do you want - a Rolls Royce or a Ferrari? Both cost a lot of money and both have special features, but they are nothing alike.
No single scope has everything just as no car has everything.
B.B.
B.B. Pelletier,
what is the best scope to use with the shadow 1000 then?
thanks
hello BB, i just wouild like to know what air guns you recomend for a new shooter. I need very high power, accuracy, and an all around excellent gun. Also it needs to be around 200.00$. Also it can be any make. Thanks.
Shadow scope,
Good question! I like the Leapers 3-9X40 AO Mil Dot scope with red/green illuminated reticle. You should be able to use medium mounts with this one.
B.B.
I want to get a bb gun thats high powered yet i dont know which. I'v narrowed it down to the CFX, shadow 1000, and the winchester 1000b. What do you recomend
hi are the shadow 1000 and the realtree hunter basicly the same gun
What would you say the accuracy in percentage of the Shandow would be compared to the accuracy of the CFX in percentage
New Gunner,
I would recommend a Benjamin 392 multi-pump pneumatic in .22 caliber for a new shooter. It's powerful, accurate and I would not get a scope. Learn to use open sights, first.
B.B.
Gun-buyer,
None of the guns you've listed are BB guns. They are all pellet rifles. I would get the CF-X of those three.
B.B.
Gamo 1000 and Realtree Hunter.
I already answered this question once. The 1000 is different than the 440, which is what the Realtree Hunter is based on. The differences are not that great, but the Realtree has a WOOD stock.
B.B.
Accuracy percentages,
I have no clue what you are asking, but it sounds vaguely like you want me to compare the accuracy of these two rifles. If that is correct, the CF-X is more accurate, according to tests I have conducted.
If you go to the main page of this blog (accessed from the home page of Pyramyd Air) there is a search function that you can use to search all the postings ever written. I have tested both of these rifles, which might help you.
B.B.
Thank you for your advice BB, you have saved me a great deal of time and money. I will order the Crosman 4032 in a couple of days (thank god for Pyramyd air, it's much cheaper there then most sites). I look forward to mounting up and following your other great guides on how to sight it in!
P.S. Thanks so much for a quick response, I was dieing to know what to do!
BB,
I bought one of these at Walmart this weekend, and took it to the range with my 22X.
I loaded this with Crosman Premier hollowpoints. I shot open sighted at 25 yards. It was sloppy at first, but after a little practice I got 2 1/2" groups pretty consistantly.
This is not a criticism of the gun. I'm not that practiced shooting a rifle open sighted, and this is the first time that I shot a springer airgun before. I'm sure the groups would've been better if I used a scope.
I used the technique you recommended of holding the forearm with an open hand. I was happy that the groups were consistant. I shot five different 10 shot groups with both the Shadow and the 22X. The funny recoil of the springer actually made shooting the Shadow kinda fun:)
I ordered a tin of Beeman Crow Magnum and a tin of Silver Ace. I'll try them next time.
Carl
Carl,
You won't get accuracy from the Crow Magnum pellet. Try the Beeman Kodiak or JSB Exact.
B.B.
I'm about to buy my first air rifle. Of all the brands I've looked at, the Gamo Varmint Hunter and Gamo Hunter Sport seem to best meet what I'm looking for in price and performance. I like the hardwood stock of the Hunter Sport but have been hearing some good things about the Varmint Hunter/Shadow series. Does anyone have any comments on which is the better of these two rifles?
Thanks much,
- Derek
Hey b.b.,
I've wanted to buy the benjamin 392 pump rifle, which you suggested to me, but i dont think ill get the money anytime soon.
would the gamo shadow 1000 be a respectable replacement? I saw one for about $120 at walmart.
I read what you said about walmart getting the cheapest guns, and what CH said about the plastic of the front sight obstructing the barrel. could that plastic be cut or shaved away without affecting the rifle?
My parents wont buy off the internet, and i really want a good gun that i can afford. are there any airgun shops/stores near central Minnesota? maybe ones that sell the benjamin 392?
thx
Insomniac
Insomniac,
The Wal Mart gun is probably the same model carried by everybody. No, the plastic cannot be removed. It's the base for the front sight.
I understand how much you want an air rifle, and it seems you are researching well. Don't make the mistake of settling for something based on the price. What if I told you you can have pretty much what you want for 2/3 the money the Gamo costs?
It's called USED, and airgunners do it all the time.
You live in Minnesota, which is a very big airgunning state. No funny laws about calibers and such. Look through the the classified ads for sporting goods and guns and see who is selling a used Sheridan or Benjaimin pneumatic.
Also look on www.craigslist.org in your area. There are always airguns there. The seller will be very close to you and you can see before buying.
Better yet, if you can get your folks to take you to a gun show, there is bound to be one or more pneumatics for sale on one of the tables! I've been going to gun shows since I was in my teens and the bargains are out there, even toiday.
Also check pawn shops. They are great places to find used airguns.
Just last year I bought TWO Sheridan Silver Streaks - a really old one at a gun show for $130 (more than you want to pay) and a more modern one in a pawn shop for $75.
You should expect to pay $60 to $90. Ask the seller if the gun shoots and holds air, and if possible, have him demonstrate it for you.
That's my advice - don't settle.
B.B.
thanks alot b.b., i'm going to get a car within the year, and a license, so i will hopefully be able to attend some gun shows. I'll check local pawn shops and see about craiglist.org.
Is there anything i should be aware of when buying a rifle used (other than to make sure that it shoots and holds air)?
thanks alot,
Insomniac
p.s. I never would have thought of the classified ads thx! ;)
oh and b.b., If I find a used Sheridan Blue Streak or Silver Streak, would you suggest taking that over the benjamin?
thx,
Insomniac
A friend recently loaned me his RWS 48 (.177) and I am at a loss for words. I went to WalMart to buy some more pellets and found the Daisy Scope for $21 clearance. I said what the heck and got it, and some hollow pt. pellets. I set up a target exactly 125 ft, and can make a golf-ball sized pattern of holes. I dont care if the scope holds up, it has served its purpose (42 squirrels in 4 days) and Ill give it to my friend when I give him his pellet gun back. I dont want to give it back though. I cant imagine a better pellet rifle than rws-48. Since Ive killed all the tree rats in my yard, Ive been shooting them out of neighbors trees from various windows in my house, mostly at distances of over 250ft. Ive declared a Jihad on all squirrels.
Insomniac,
With a multi-pump like the Sheridan, always check to see that the solder joint between the barrel and pump tube is tight. Look closely, because sometimes there can be a fine hairline crack where the joint is about to fail. It comes from people overtightening a scope intermount.
With a breakbarrel, check to make sure the barrel isn't bent. Some people can't resist firing their guns with the barrel broken open, and the barrel bends every time.
With a CO2 gun sealing is the most important thing. However, a slow leak can often be fixed by putting a drop of Crosman Pellgunoil on the tip of a powerlet before piercing.
There are many other things to check, but you will have to learn them the same as all ofher airgunners. I'm still learning things.
B.B.
Insomniac,
The Sheridan is .20 caliber, which limits your choice of pellets. The Benjamin is .177 and .22, for which many more pellets are available.
Power of the .20 and .22 are equivalent.
B.B.
thanks b.b.,
I'll try to get the 392. no luck on craiglist but i'll keep on checking! about how many fps do you get on 5-6 pumps with the 392? and is that enough to kill a chipmunk or a squirrel? and can you give me a little more detail on where the solder joint is? I have no idea what it is.
thanks,
Insomniac
Insomniac,
You should get about 500-550 on 5-6 pumps, depending on the pellet. Yes, that's enough power for a chipmunk and possibly a squirrel with a perfect head shot at close range.
Solder is a lead-tin compound used to join two pieces of metal. The barrel is soldered to the pump tub with a solder joint that runs the entire length of their attachment. So you look between the bottom of the barrel and the top of the pump tube to see the joint.
B.B.
Thanks b.b.,
that helps alot, i'm almost 100% sure i'll get the benjamin, and if i cant find that (or a blue or silver streak) for a reasonable price, I may get the gamo shadow 1000.
Thx,
Insomniac
B.B.
I was wondering what ammount of fps. i would need to kill rabits and other small game
thx,
I-Like-Guns
I-Like-Guns,
Gamo advertises the Shadow 1000 as a 1,000 f.p.s. gun. Gamo has a reputation for sometimes overstating the velocity, and my tests have resulted in 950 f.p.s. with medium-weight pellets, so it isn't that far off.
Of course you don't want to shoot that fast for accuracy's sake, but you can shoot heavier pellets and get in the 800s.
B.B.
B.B.
Would 800fps. be enough to kill small game?
thx
I-Like-Guns
Everyone,
this comment is just for everyone that wants to know if a bi-pod will work with the GAMO SHADOW 100,
the answer is: YES,
it works perfectly.
I-Like-Guns,
If it's a .22 pellet, yes. If a .177, then stick with rabbits and under.
B.B.
BB,
I'm shopping for a scope for my shadow 1000. Should I get the Gamo Varmint Hunter kit for Shadow 1000? or the BSA AR 4 X 32mm? Also do I need a Scope Stop(the one with recoil absorber)from Gamo? I do have a black metal plate
My friend are looking for a 0.22 air rifle and a air pistols. Any suggestion? They are looking for something look and feel real(I assume they don't want cheap plastic BB guns)and powerful.
Thanks in advance.
Peter
Gamo Varmint Hunter,
Since the kit offers a 4 by 32 I don't see any advantage to getting a BSA 4 by 32 instead. BSA scopes are only average optics. If you want to go up in quality, I'd look to the Leapers line.
The metal plate on the Shadow IS the scope stop. You need nothing extra.
I'd advise your friends to consider a Benjamin 392. It's all wood and metal and the best buy for the money. Spring guns in that price range don't compare.
B.B.
BB,
Got it! Will sure look in to Leapers line.
What about one time cocking 0.22 air rifle? Any suggestion on that?
Thanks again for the fast reply.
Peter
For a spring rifle I'd recommend the TX200 or the RWS Diana 48.52. The first is an underlever and the second a sidelever.
B.B.
B.B. pelletier,
is the gamo shadow 1000 a magnum powerd airgun?
Thanks
There is no definition for a magnum-powered airgun. Back in the 1970s, the word magnum applied to any rifle that developed more than 800 f.p.s. Then it moved up to 1,000 f.p.s. Today, however, velocity is meaningless. What we talk about instead is evergy.
A Gamo Shadow 1,000 is a 17 foot-pound rifle in .177 caliber. The AirForce Condor develops 65 foot-pounds in .22 and about 30 in .177.
The distinction of magnum power has become muddy.
Many people would consider the Shadow 1000 to be a magnum, however, because not many people are aware of all the powerful airguns that exist.
B.B.
Thanks B.B.
for the quick reply
Gamo Shadow 1000 on CLEARANCE at Walmart for $74.00. Better hurry. I bought one yesterday and of the three Walmarts here in Huntsville, AL there were only four guns available .
Hi B.B. pelletier,
i wanted to find out, how well do you think the BSA 2-7x32 AR scope will work on the gamo shadow 1000?
because im thinking of buying one and i need advice on if it's worth it.
Thanks,
Wesley
Wesley,
I see no reason why the BSA 2-7X32 scope would not work fine on the Shadow 1000.
B.B.
hi B.B.
when ever i try and cock the barrel on my gamo shadow 1000
half way i cant go any further because it gets stuck.
Thanks
Stuck Gamo,
Something has broken inside, I believe. It sounds like a mainspring, but that's not certain.
What is certain it that the gun has to be repaired. Depending on how long you've had it, you can either return it to the dealer or directly to Gamo for repairs.
I wish there was something simple I could tell you to do, but this symptom sounds major.
Sorry,
B.B.
hi b.b.
ive just taken my gun into were i got it from and they say it might the pin that holds the spring and they will send it to there agents to get fixed.
Thanks,
Wesley
P.S. ive only had the gun since the 29 of july
Howdy,
Looking into the Varmint hunter. There seems to be two versions, one of which has a "fluted polymer barrel".
Could you elaborate?
Marco
Taos NM
Marco,
Gamo has dressed up the Varmint Hunter with a fluted polymer SLEEVE over the steel barrel. You are seening the old and new models concurrently.
B.B.
Hi B.B.pelletier,
Between The Gamo Shadow 1000 and the Diana RWS 34, which one do you prefer?
Not important, just a question.
Wezzy
Wezzy,
That's a hard one. I think the Gamo comes out of the box better, but a tuned 34 will beat it.
B.B.
Hi B.B.
Its me the guy that had the stuck gamo?
i got it back last night and its fine now, it actually works better.
Wezzy
Wezzy,
Always like a good ending!
B.B.
Hi B.B.
this is kind of a religious question,
Im a christian and i wanted to find out if, I hunt something will that make me evil or something and if i will still be a christian?
and my mom won't let me hunt so how do i tell her thats what i want to do?
Thanks
Son,
The Lord is not against hunting. In fact, God told Adam to rule over all thef ish in the sea, the birds of the air, the cattle, over all the earth and over everything that creeps upon the earth.
Your religion is not your problem. You need to talk to your mother. Honoring your father and your mother is one of the ten commandments.
You tell her you want to hunt. You have to be honest with her. And if she does give you permission to hunt, you will have to take a hunter safety course and pass a test to get your hunting license and be accompanied by an adult when you do go out.
Perhaps you should do this in smaller steps. Will your mother permit you to shoot at all? That would be your first step.
B.B.
Thanks B.B.
Hi B.B.
Its me again, all i want to actually hunt is squirells and rats and my mom wont even let me do that.
Thanks
Will she let you shoot? You didn't answer that question yet. Everything else depends on that.
B.B.
Hi B.B.
yes she will let me shoot, i have the gamo shadow 1000 airgun and she always lets me shoot.
Thanks
Okay, if you can shoot, you just have to change what you hunt. Start with pests. Insects are the best for training a good shooting eye. Try wasps, yellokackets and any annoying flying pest you can think of.
Don't hunt beneficial insects like preying mantis, thoug, so you will have to learn which ones are real pests.
Then there are bigger pests like rats, mice magpies and grackels. Check with your mom to see which ones you can hunt.
Read this blog:
http://remembering-when.blogspot.com/
And good luck.
B.B.
Hi B.B.
that was i nice story but my moms just not like that.
And i don't know what to do.
Thanks
Hi B.B.
For my Gamo Shadow 1000 which one is better, the BSA 2-7x32 or BSA 4x32?
Thanks
What do you mean by "better?" What makes one scope better than another?
B.B.
B.B.
Between those two which one is best?
Hello BB,
I am just looking for a suggestion from you on a good rifle for ranged shots.
I will be killing gophers and squirrels at ranged of between 20 and 200 feet.
If not a Shadow 1000, what rifle and what caliber would you suggest for 1 shot kills in the shoulder or head of these sized critters?
I was thinking the .177 cal would be best for the longer ranged shots, but the .22 cal for the energy.
Thanks for your suggestions. These critters must die lol. they are over running my gardens!
.22 is by far the better killer. If you stay with .177, I do like the CF-X, because of the extra accuracy.
For ranged shots (those at pre-measured ranges) a .22 would be ideal. You can dial the rifle in for all the expected distances and apply the correction needed for every shot.
B.B.
i own the varmit hunter. i was looking for pellets online and came across darts for my gun. what i want to know is are these for hunting or for targets? also is the gun to fast to shoot these?
Darts are only for low-powered smoothbore guns like the Marksman 1010. They will ruin the barrel of a rifled gun like your Varmint Hunter.
B.B.
Hi B.B.
I have the gamo shadow 1000 and if i am shooting at any were around 50 to 350 feet, would the BSA 2-7x32 be the right scope?
Thanks
Wezzy
Wezzy,
Well, it will work, but there are scopes with more magnification that will work better. If you already own the scope I'd say go with it. If not, think 4-16.
B.B.
B.B.
Sorry i was supposed to say 150 feet not 350.
I dont have the scope yet but im thinking about getting it and one more thing, do you think it will be fine at 150 feet?
Thanks
Wezzy
Wezzy,
Since snipers in the Civil War used to kill the enemy at 800 yards with a 4X scope, yes, I think a 7X is fine for 50 yards. In World War II the most common scope magnification was 4X. The Russians used 3X some of the time. And their snipers were the best in the war.
B.B.
I have a Shadow 1000 and I am getting one piece scope mounts for it. Using a two piece, my scope slid like crazy. Even with the scope stop on it still slid leaving a scratch mark on the top. Hopefully the one piece mount will work better. If you look at the new line of Gamo guns, the scopes on there (in Cabela's) have one piece mounts. Also I was wondering how tight of groups the Shadow could make at 40 to 50 yards. Thanks.
Kyle
I'm looking for a nice air rifle to take care of squirrels and other pests around the yard. Sounds like the Shadow will do the trick. My question is how loud is the gun? I don't want to scare any neighbors.
The Shadow is fairly loud for an airgun but it tends to quiet down with the more shots you put into it. My small 20 yd. range at home is surrounded by a brick wall and the house. The noise reflects off it and seems to make it louder. But when I'm out in a field or in the open, the noise doesn't echo or sound as loud. My neighbors don't mind (they are very close) but as soon as I see them come out, I put the gun away just so I don't worry them. The rifle should do a fine job when it comes to pests. Just don't give it the death grip when shooting.
Kyle
Kyle,
Using the artillery hold, a Shadow should shoot five-shot groups of one inch at 40 yards; 1.5 at 50. That would be with JSB domed pellets.
If it doesn't shoot that well, clean the bore with JB Non-Embedding Bore Paste.
B.B.
Hello BB,
We had another nice day down here in MS, so I went out and chrono'ed my Shadow 1000.
Crosman Premier - 7.9 gr
Hi 902
Low 885
Ave 896
SD 7.9
Beeman Silver Ace - 8.12 gr
Hi 814
Low 802
Ave 807
SD 5.0
Beeman Crow Magnum - 8.80 gr
Hi 840
Low 829
Ave 835
SD 5.4
Judging by these numbers, I think 850 ft/sec would be a more fair rating for this gun rather than 1000 ft/sec. I've heard that the advertised rating is usually a stretch, but from what I'm seeing with my guns both Webley and Gamo do a little more than just stretch. I also find it funny that the .177 Silver Ace ran slower than the slightly heavier Crow Magnum. This is a similar find that I got with my .25 Stingray when comparing the Silver Ace to the Silver Bear. Perhaps the Silver Ace just isn't the best pellet.
Anyway, I hope these numbers help hunters evaluate the performance that they can expect from the Shadow with realistic pellets.
Merry Christmas,
Carl
Hi B.B.
On my Gamo Shadow 1000 the butt pad and scope stop is different,
The butt pad is thicker and the scope stop is a piece of metal screwed into the gun.
Could this be caused by a malfunction in the factory or do you think its a newer version?
Its still shoot fine and handles fine but i just found that to be a bit odd.
Thanks
All airgun companies make small changes in guns without notifying the public. This is normal and no cause for concern.
B.B.
Hey B.B.
Thanks for all the great info you've been putting out. In regards to the shadow series, are all the shadow series basically the same gun dressed up differently, i.e. shadow 1000, shadow sport, shadow varmit hunter, shadow black hunter, shadow silver... etc. I've found tons of reviews on the shadow 1000 but not too much on all the others. Based on reviews I'm planning on buying the shadow 1000 soon but if they are all the same I would definitely have more choices to choose from. I also heard that gamo guns are manufactured in different factories and depending on the model the qc isn't as great on some of them. Final question, in reading your responses you seem to favor the cfx over the shadow 1000, is the cfx that much better in terms of performance? Thanks.
Ryan
Ryan,
I used to think Gamo couldn't make an air rifle with accuracy to rival the better German guns. The CF-X disproved that.
It's probably because it's an underlever and therefore less sensitive to hold, rather than being more accurate, but, yes, the CF-X is that much better.
B.B.
B.B.,
I have a Shadow 1000 and am looking at the bulk pack pellets on Pyramid Air- Premier domed 8.5 gr. I don't know if these will work as good as other pellets because I haven't tried them. Most other pellets are tight fitting in the barrel or almost slip through. I am using open sights at about 20 yds and getting about 1" 5 shot groups using cheap pointed pellets. Any info on how good these would be would be great. Also, is using a bipod good? should I leave the gun resting on the bipod or should my hand be under the gun stabilizing it? I also want to ask if the one-piece scope rings would help any because of the tremendous scope-slide even with the scope stop provided. Thanks for your feed back and your info on this gun.
Kyle
Kyle,
I don't understand. There is no 8.5-grain Crosman Premier pellet. And Premiers are not sold in bilk packaging. They come in a cardboard box.
As for your scope slipping, you need a mechanical scope stop. No amount of clamping pressure alone is enoug to stop a scope mount from slipping.
A bipod on a breakbarrel isn't a good idea. Breakbarrels are all hold-sensitive and need to be rested on the open palm.
Your Shadow should group under one inch at 20 yards.
B.B.
B.B.,
Thanks for the quick feed-back. Sorry, I meant 7.9 gr. pellets. And what did you mean by saying that Premiers and not solid in bulk packaging? I did mean to say that the pellets were in the ccardboard box. Forgot to say that.
The scope stop provided with the gun does not provide an adequate amount of "scope stop."
Thanks for any feed-back, I value your advice.
Kyle
Hi B.b.
How much harder is the Gamo Hunter 1250 to cock than the Gamo Shadow 1000?
Is it only a little bit harder, much harder etc?
Thanks
Wezzy
Wezzy,
Gamo 1250 - 60 pounds. Gamo Shadow - 38 pounds. The 1250 is too hard for 50 percent of adult men.
B.B.
Hi B.B.
You know they say that the skenco type 1 pellets are supposed to go super sonic in the Gamo Shadow 1000?
Well, i bought some and about 3 out of 10 times they went super sonic.
I dont know if its because it hasent broken in yet or what please help.
Why dont they go super sonic all the time?
Thanks
Wezzy
Wezzy,
I was referring to the light pellets, only. What altitude do you shoot at? That, plus temperature and humidity determines where the barrier will be. Where I live I have seen it go as low as 1040 to as high as 1100.
B.B.
B.B. thanks a ton for all of your help and support! I had a few things I wanted to share.
-new to airguns and guns in general
-bought a gamo 1000 from walmart
-3inch group at 25yards consistently, standing up no sandbag or armrest or anything, open site
-1.5inch best group at 25yards, same technique
-mounted a leapers 3-9x50 AO scope with two gamo rings
-lots of creep, scope stop did not have a hole to screw into so it didn't work
-switched to accushot full length integral scope mount, LERGPM2PA-25H4, creep problem solved! i'm very happy.
-couldn't site scope in, shot way too low, so I had to shim the scope up in the back using strips of plastic from 2liter bottle. this works great. all is good.
-required shimming made me notice that there is barrel droop.
-my accuracy isn't what others are reporting.
-noticed your comment above about a bent barrel due to someone shooting with barrel broken open. wondering if someone did this and returned gun and then I purchased gun.
1. How do I check for bent barrel visually?
2. What symptoms will barrel droop cause when I shoot?
3. Will my overall accuracy be affected by barrel droop?
btw: I plan to try resting my hand on a deck rail or something when shooting to see if my accuracy improves. I noticed that gripping lightly as recommended did make a big difference.
thanks for all your help!!
1. look for non-concentric circles of light in the barrel when you peer through at a light source.
2. You will shoot lower.
3. Drop has zero impact on accuracy.
You don't have a bent barrel, but you WILL bend that scope tube by using 2-liter bottle material. That way too thick!
You need an adjustable scope mount. Lacking that, try to shim under the scope mont base in the rear.
B.B.
1. what symptoms will be seen if the barrel is bent?
2. what symptoms will be seen if the scope tube is bent?
thanks again for your help. it means a lot!
1. Forget symptoms. If you have a bent barrel you will be able to see it by looking through the barrel. Look for light patterns that are not concentric. That means look for light that dips or spikes at one spot aound the inner circumfrence of the bore.
2. A bent scope tube has dents in the outside tube. They are easy to see, once you take the rings off. The scope may continue to work, depending on how deep the dents are and where they are located.
B.B.
-I checked the barrel, not bent
-I tried resting hand on deck rail, now shooting 2inch groups easily
-I still need to work on correct pressure on shoulder...I haven't found the sweet spot yet
-currently using H&N 0.177 field and target 8.49gr
-will try JSB 0.177 diablo exact heavey next
-I don't notice any dents on scope tube, maybe I'll get them eventually
-will upgrade to better gun without droop before I upgrade to adjustable mount since price of mounts are in $40+ range
-hoping more practice, tune technique, and find best pellets will get me to 1inch group at 25yrds
-still having a blast shooting at cardboard in front of a sheet of metal
-can't wait for a crow to come back in my yard...but for some reason they don't come around anymore after seeing me practicing...*smile*
just wondering what pellets got you the best groups i wanted to try jsb exact beeman crow magnam beeman ram jets and beeman kodiaks i know you said the hollow points are not very accurate past 25 yard but most of my shot are taking under the so im just trying to find a good hunting pellet for my gamo and i want one that wont over penatrate most of the time sorry if im bugging you thanks cody
Cody,
As long as your shots are at close range, hollowpoints like the Crow Magnum are great. Also try the RWS Super-H-Point and the Beeman Silver Bear.
Crosman will soon have a wonderful new hollowpoint called the Destroyer on the market and you should try them when you can.
B.B.
its me again cody and i have one more question i was looking at a new scope and was thinking leapers because you say they are good and i trust you but any ways i was looking at the leapers 4-16x50 ao mdl varmit scope with illuminated reticle now my question is if you dont turn on that red green cross hairs does it still show regular black cross hairs because i dont want to be using battery all the time when i dont need them and does it have a one inch tube or a 30mm tube i already got the extra high adjustible mount so mounting is not a problem but that one looks good as long as it shows the black croshairs when its not on and it has a one inch tube but thank you for telling about the pellets i have learned alot from your posts and i still would not have a clue about alot of this stuff you are a good man thank cody and i hope im not bothering you
Cody,
You are not bothering me. This is the reason this blog exists - to answer questions like yours!
When the illuminated reticle is turned off the reticle shows as black lines, the same as any non-illuminated scope. I own several illuminated scopes and I almost never use the illumination feature.
The Leapers 4-16X50 has a one-inch tube. But the 4-16X56 has a 30mm tube. So make sure you buy the right one. In the descriptions on Pyramyd Air, is should say 30mm tube, is that's what it is. If it says nothing about the tube size, it is a one-inch tube.
Pyramyd Air is currently working on a specifications section for optics that will look like the one they now have for airguns. Tube diameter will be one of the data presented in that section in the future.
B.B.
i will try those pellet but you said crosman has a new pellet coming out and it looks like the one gamo has out the tomahawk so i was wondering what do you think of those do you think those would be good
I expect the new Crosman pellet to be good, but I'll wait and see. I haven't shot the Gamo Tomahawk, but Gamo knows how to make pellets. However, they are going up against JSB with this pellet and my money is on JSB.
B.B.
i seen your blog today and i have tried the crosman hollow points in my gamo and i got good results from those i got just under an inch at 23 yard thats how big my back yard is but now that i seen your results do you think i should stick with those or do you think the other one would be better
thanks cody
Cody,
I always stick with pellets that are accurate in my gun, so if this one is good for you, keep shooting it. The price is right and now we know that it does perform.
B.B.
i was just wondering i want to put a sling on on my gamo shadow 1000 and i seen those beeman barrel clamps and was not sure if i get the bigger one or the smaller on so i just wanted to see if you knew or not
thank cody
Cody,
You need to call Pyramyd Air for a question like this. They have all the items at their location and can answer you with confidence.
B.B.
Hi BB
This has nothing to do with the Gamo, but the Daisy Powerline 1000 with scope combo. i dont know anywhere else I can get help from. Well I bought the DAsiy powerline 1000 fps .17 caliber from walmart for 100 dollars but the scope keeps moving! I trie dmany different scope mounts but the recoil makes it move! Is there any kind of glue or adhesive that would work good?
Also, I have a worn down screw that is pretty much a complete crater in the scope backstop(a piece of metal). no screwdriver can get any grip on it and None of the scer extractors that i bought worked. Do you happen to know how I can get this out? Thanks.
New Airgunner,
There are several ways to remove buggered screws. One is to clamp them with a good Vice Grip and turn them out. It ruins the screw head but nobody cares.
A second way to remove a screw is to cut a screw slot in the head with a hacksaw. Is there room for that without hitting the spring tube?
A third way is to drill a small hole in the center of the screw and use an Easy Out. They sell them at Sears.
No adhesive can stop scope mount movement. It takes a positive mechanical stop to stop movement.
B.B.
i tried the new gamo pellets the tomahawk pellet and the were realy good they had some undersized ones in there and some had some burrs on them or whatever you want to call those little thing that stick of them but after you sort threw them they shot as good as the crosman hollow points but i was telling you this since you have not shot them yet they look like the rocket with a point instead of the steel ball
cody
cody,
Thank you. I'm starting to hear good things about them. I need to test some.
B.B.
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